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i don't think that that is religion specific. i think that's across the board , his relationship with israel, his relationship with the muslim world. host: this is a "financial times" editorial today. rethink on drones after petraeus exit. general petraeus has been the master mind behind using deprones to go after al qaeda in the horn of africa, etc. what has been the world reaction to these -- this type of mill tear strategy. guest: the administration has doubled down on thes you of drones. there are hundreds more than there ever were in the bush administration. there's clear security rationale for some of them. there are certainly issues. the administration's execity -- executive privilege in making these decisions. i don't think petraeus was the only person who has been the master mind. this has been -- there are many figures in the administration that feel strongly about this. i don't see the policy changing. but there is certainly a feeling in pakistan, especially, in the horn of africa and other places new york yemen, it wa
i don't think that that is religion specific. i think that's across the board , his relationship with israel, his relationship with the muslim world. host: this is a "financial times" editorial today. rethink on drones after petraeus exit. general petraeus has been the master mind behind using deprones to go after al qaeda in the horn of africa, etc. what has been the world reaction to these -- this type of mill tear strategy. guest: the administration has doubled down on thes you of...
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and is that combination of high religion and down to earth hard work to motivates these men. to least be told language. news programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on. reporting from the world talks box seventy ip interviews intriguing stories for you here. in troy t arabic to find out more visit our big teeth dot com. evening. elite. good afternoon welcome to capital account i'm lauren lyster here in washington d.c. these are your headlines for monday november twelfth two thousand and twelve what happens when you take your medicine you've endured the pain but your sickness doesn't go away well you might want to ask greece out then passed a new austerity budget they've committed to public sector cuts privatization measures who grazes careening towards its sixth year of economic contraction that is six years of depression we'll get a report on the ground by greek journalist be honest paleologos live from athens and the international energy agency says the u.s. is on track to become the world's top oil producer in two thousand and seventeen and most entirely be ener
and is that combination of high religion and down to earth hard work to motivates these men. to least be told language. news programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on. reporting from the world talks box seventy ip interviews intriguing stories for you here. in troy t arabic to find out more visit our big teeth dot com. evening. elite. good afternoon welcome to capital account i'm lauren lyster here in washington d.c. these are your headlines for monday november twelfth two thousand...
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distant combination of high religion and down to earth hard work than motivates these men.
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and a lot of it has to do with our long history and pluralization of american religions. >> so tell us a bit about that history. why is it okay to joke about jesus but not other religious figures? >> the sacred is much more in contest here in part because of our legacy of religious freedom, but in part because we've had a long history of conflict over sacred imagery and words, often violent conflict. and in more recent years because of the rise of secularism, because of the rise of the culture of mockery in part, as well. it's just become more acceptable. >> is it because more and more of us are agnostic? i mean, why is it? is it -- do we still believe in jesus yet we joke about him? is it the other way around? >> well, it's funny if you read the comments on our cnn belief blog, you'll see that people are engaging in arguments with each other saying our argument has but humor is the way we deal with these kinds of conflicts. and as we say in the piece, in part, it's our way we don't kill each other. >> well, interestingly, i was talking to one of the employees here at cnn, kathy, and s
and a lot of it has to do with our long history and pluralization of american religions. >> so tell us a bit about that history. why is it okay to joke about jesus but not other religious figures? >> the sacred is much more in contest here in part because of our legacy of religious freedom, but in part because we've had a long history of conflict over sacred imagery and words, often violent conflict. and in more recent years because of the rise of secularism, because of the rise of...
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and that's when he suddenly found his religion. >> hmm. general james "spider" marks joining us this morning. thank you, sir. we certainly appreciate it. nice to see you. >> sure. >> still ahead this morning on "starting point" when veterans return home they often face an uphill battle trying to return to civilian life but there's a method of meditation that could help them. we're dealing with post traumatic stress. russell simmons is our guest up next. ♪ 100% greek. 100% mmm... ♪ oh wow, that is mmm... ♪ in fact it's so mmm you might not believe it's a hundred calories. well ok then, new yoplait greek 100. it is so good. ♪ it is so good. alriwoah! did you get that? and...flip! yep, look at this. it takes like 20 pictures at a time. i never miss anything. isn't that awesome? uh that's really cool. you should upload these. i know, right? that is really amazing. the pictures are so clear. kevin's a handsome devil that phone does everything! search dog tricks. okay, see if we can teach him something cool. look at how lazy kevin is. ke
and that's when he suddenly found his religion. >> hmm. general james "spider" marks joining us this morning. thank you, sir. we certainly appreciate it. nice to see you. >> sure. >> still ahead this morning on "starting point" when veterans return home they often face an uphill battle trying to return to civilian life but there's a method of meditation that could help them. we're dealing with post traumatic stress. russell simmons is our guest up next. ♪...
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it is not just their religion but a political movement. you cannot deal with a muslim as an apostite because they will make any treaty and it is ok for them to break their word to turn around and kill the apostate. host: is there any truth in that when dealing with muslim nations, either dealing with each other or other countries? guest: what's really important here is that we need to talk about the arab springer. this was a fundamental moment of the past few years in which we saw this massive push in this really indigenous push within egypt, tunisia, and other democratic governments. some of those movements have had potentially scary things. there are some islamic fundamentalist parties that we do not have great relationships with and they understand that can be confusing thing. what obama has tried to do and in his famous speech in cairo is that he wants to deal with these countries and talk to the electorate. now we have an entirely different landscape, but in egypt, libya, and tunisia. relationship with these countries, these are count
it is not just their religion but a political movement. you cannot deal with a muslim as an apostite because they will make any treaty and it is ok for them to break their word to turn around and kill the apostate. host: is there any truth in that when dealing with muslim nations, either dealing with each other or other countries? guest: what's really important here is that we need to talk about the arab springer. this was a fundamental moment of the past few years in which we saw this massive...
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so taht is the part -- that is the part of religion that worries me. to the government has no business telling us what to do under any circumstances. the particular threat that worries me is precisely william mentioned -- that hospitals to not have to serve. that i did not have to do anything for you, which is the conversion of public accommodation. -- the inversion of public accommodation. it comes out of a very southern inspired, segregationist-- it is no more religious to me than those schools set up -- it is not a the disbelief. -- not a religious belief. >> that conversation has been -- it was not always a part of the political conversation. about and the vice-presidential debate, how the question about reproductive choice was about their fate. martha radditz asked them about their faith. within the women's movement because of the relationship of the movement has had around abortion and contraception, specifically with regard to the catholic church, there is a catholic or transitions and feminist organization that are driving force in the women's
so taht is the part -- that is the part of religion that worries me. to the government has no business telling us what to do under any circumstances. the particular threat that worries me is precisely william mentioned -- that hospitals to not have to serve. that i did not have to do anything for you, which is the conversion of public accommodation. -- the inversion of public accommodation. it comes out of a very southern inspired, segregationist-- it is no more religious to me than those...
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the national religion in the u.s. is the military and the journalists are the high priests. >> what does this mean for afghanistan and the cia? you have this military general becoming the head of the cia, now david petraeus -- the have whatever will happen to john allen. what does this mean? >> i'm not sure means anything as far as the policy national security state. i think it will simply be replaced. i'm not sure that general allen is going anywhere. certainly, david petraeus was an important person in the sense he was a revered, almost as a religious figure, that he shielded the cia and other military institutions from any kind of criticism i think -- >> and has been pushing for an expansion of the drone war. >> and president obama, the commander in chief, his boss, is very much on board with the expansion not just of the drone war, the conversion of the cia and to even more of a paramilitary organization than it has ever been before. i think that will continue fully apace on whoever steps and will be fully on boar
the national religion in the u.s. is the military and the journalists are the high priests. >> what does this mean for afghanistan and the cia? you have this military general becoming the head of the cia, now david petraeus -- the have whatever will happen to john allen. what does this mean? >> i'm not sure means anything as far as the policy national security state. i think it will simply be replaced. i'm not sure that general allen is going anywhere. certainly, david petraeus was...
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over a fighter squadron where a previous commander we had i think three or four folks of the mormon religion in the squadron. they didn't drink. they would come to happy hour on fridays at the bar when we used to do that kind of thing. and they'd participate and drink a soda and didn't drink. and he held this against them for some reason. he got fired and i became the leader. not for that but for some other stupid stuff. let me tell you how easy it was to take over that squadron. all you have to do is embrace everybody. and if you don't in a squadron, if you exclude three people not only do they not people part of the team but you're not going to get the job done. our military is not going to get any bigger by the way through most of your careers. we need everybody in a major way. so i think it's also good by the way that you're in the military or going to join the military for those at the service academies and v.m.i. and probably some others in this room. you're joining an organization that has no tolerance for discrimination. and it's been going on for a long time. it's taken a long time
over a fighter squadron where a previous commander we had i think three or four folks of the mormon religion in the squadron. they didn't drink. they would come to happy hour on fridays at the bar when we used to do that kind of thing. and they'd participate and drink a soda and didn't drink. and he held this against them for some reason. he got fired and i became the leader. not for that but for some other stupid stuff. let me tell you how easy it was to take over that squadron. all you have...
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why is there an even distance that we must merge religion and state to celebrate holidays. it is best done on private property. jon property. >> this ends up being about bullies. what iit's about imposing a dynamic that you want to feel as though you belong in a society where you are a minority. and ultimately it's about trying to change the face of the majority to meet you because you can't adapt. i think that this nation is tolerant, and this is about a fully dynamics. >> they are not being bullies, they are asking for the same rights that christian groups had for 50 or 60 years. >> your goal is to push them out. >> tell christian groups to get more aggressive. put in more applications, it's an open process it treats everybody fairly. >> it's not all but,. >> it's not going to be about the dominant religion either. it's about free speech for everybody and freedom for everybody. >> which is brought to you by christianity, by the way. jon: the judge is hearing this case today. we'll see if she comes to some kind of accommodation that makes both sides happy. i don't know it
why is there an even distance that we must merge religion and state to celebrate holidays. it is best done on private property. jon property. >> this ends up being about bullies. what iit's about imposing a dynamic that you want to feel as though you belong in a society where you are a minority. and ultimately it's about trying to change the face of the majority to meet you because you can't adapt. i think that this nation is tolerant, and this is about a fully dynamics. >> they are...
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i have real clear religion of private colleges, but answer this question a lot. the first amendment applies to public colleges. it doesn't apply to private colleges. there's something called the leonard law that applies first amendment standards to california universities. private universities are bound by their own promise. so yell at harvard, the best schools in the country's promise freedom of speech in glowing language. for some forceful contracts in the states, particularly massachusetts and new york, by the way. but it's not just a legal enforceability, it is their moral power. believe me, i know this from experience, columbia, harvard, yale do not like being called out when they violate their own freedom of speech. american has been more shoulder sharkey about it. that's why did this to step up the argument. it is a harder road, but you hold them against their own values and his people within the university who know those codes are wrong. but it is a harder fight and definitely stay on the fire to help you fight. >> i'm also in american university. you've
i have real clear religion of private colleges, but answer this question a lot. the first amendment applies to public colleges. it doesn't apply to private colleges. there's something called the leonard law that applies first amendment standards to california universities. private universities are bound by their own promise. so yell at harvard, the best schools in the country's promise freedom of speech in glowing language. for some forceful contracts in the states, particularly massachusetts...
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and we stood next to each other working together to complete the task at hand and religion was never an issue and i think that that is really the lesson here and that's what i'm looking forward to bringing to congress and i think it's a perfect time and a great time for congress to start moving towards this representation of diversity and really this common ideal that regardless of what our differences might be, we need to come together for the people. >> i read a blurb about you in the "new york times," you find your spirituality through yoga. tell us about that. >> well, i also practice and many people do, the exercise form of yoga. but karma yoga is really the ideal of service. whatever it is that you're doing, doing it with the value of service and seeing how you can effect positive change on those around you and that's really what has been the guiding light for me throughout my life and it's what has motivated me and brought me here today. >> we need a lot of that in con greps today. tulsi gabbard, thank you. >> aloha. >> aloha. >>> people are going to craigslist to find a loan.
and we stood next to each other working together to complete the task at hand and religion was never an issue and i think that that is really the lesson here and that's what i'm looking forward to bringing to congress and i think it's a perfect time and a great time for congress to start moving towards this representation of diversity and really this common ideal that regardless of what our differences might be, we need to come together for the people. >> i read a blurb about you in the...
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this one rings true with me, with regard to religion. it's okay to make fun of christians, but not other religions. >> let's look, you can do the book of mormon. i live near the -- where it plays. people come out, they love it. it's fantastic. but if you do a where is mohammed car too. all the people who run the tolerance, they didn't run the cartoon of the they actually suffer from islamphobia. they point to the writer and conservatives and go, because you're upset about the mosque near the world trade center remains -- >> brian: you're anti-muslim. let's talk about the occupy movement and compared to the tea party movement. that's the impetus by why a guy of your intellect writes a book like this. >> it drove me nuts. the media in part drove most of this because they see themselves in the romantic ideals of the occupy movement when, in fact, everything about the occupy movement was an attack on american values. whereas, the tea party celebrated smaller government and basically individual liberty, which to them, to a reporter, to the me
this one rings true with me, with regard to religion. it's okay to make fun of christians, but not other religions. >> let's look, you can do the book of mormon. i live near the -- where it plays. people come out, they love it. it's fantastic. but if you do a where is mohammed car too. all the people who run the tolerance, they didn't run the cartoon of the they actually suffer from islamphobia. they point to the writer and conservatives and go, because you're upset about the mosque near...
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over a fighter squadron where a previous commander we had i think three or four folks of the mormon religion in the squadron. they didn't drink. they would come to happy hour on fridays at the bar when we used to do that kind of thing. and they'd participate and drink a soda and didn't drink. and he held this against them for some reason. he got fired and i became the leader. not for that but for some other stupid stuff. let me tell you how easy it was to take over that squadron. all you have to do is embrace everybody. and if you don't in a squadron, if you exclude three people not only do they not people part of the team but you're not going to get the job done. our military is not going to get any bigger by the way through most of your careers. we need everybody in a major way. so i think it's also good by the way that you're in the military or going to join the military for those at the service academies and v.m.i. and probably some others in this room. you're joining an organization that has no tolerance for discrimination. and it's been going on for a long time. it's taken a long time
over a fighter squadron where a previous commander we had i think three or four folks of the mormon religion in the squadron. they didn't drink. they would come to happy hour on fridays at the bar when we used to do that kind of thing. and they'd participate and drink a soda and didn't drink. and he held this against them for some reason. he got fired and i became the leader. not for that but for some other stupid stuff. let me tell you how easy it was to take over that squadron. all you have...
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we've got to do a better job of getting across that america is freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise and freedom is special and rare. shannon: the timing of general david petraeus resigning from the cia is raising questions as its comes just before he was to testify on libya. the stunning revelation. war hero general david petraeus forced from his cia post over his affair with his biographer. but the exit comes days after he was set to testify over the response to the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. national security correspondents jennifer griffin has been breaking news all along on this. hello, jennifer. >> reporter: serious questions are being raised whether broadwell had access to the benghazi because of her relationship with david petraeus. and whether she may have revealed some of that information during a speech on november 6. bradwell said this. >> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia annex had taken a couple of libyan mely shah members prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get the prisoners back
we've got to do a better job of getting across that america is freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise and freedom is special and rare. shannon: the timing of general david petraeus resigning from the cia is raising questions as its comes just before he was to testify on libya. the stunning revelation. war hero general david petraeus forced from his cia post over his affair with his biographer. but the exit comes days after he was set to testify over the response...
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i am muslim, very strict about things, and i think that people have a right to not practice religion here. they have a right to do things the way they feel comfortable doing it, which is called secular or religious thinking. they have the right in this country not to follow religious law. for him to feel that he needed to resign over a scandal, i do not think that is proper when he does not have to follow religious thinking about sex in this country. host: thank you for the call this morning. here is the editorial from "usa today." host: diane, want to get your thoughts this morning on the democratic line. caller: i went to school with one of my friends in coronado, california. wondering if you are related to anyone from connecticut. host: not sure. what are your thoughts about the general's resignation? caller: let me tell you something, we came here when i was a, we came to a military base. my stepfather served in the first marines. also we went to camp pendleton and he was the commander of that unit for many years. at the veterans day to our veterans. living and deceased. and acti
i am muslim, very strict about things, and i think that people have a right to not practice religion here. they have a right to do things the way they feel comfortable doing it, which is called secular or religious thinking. they have the right in this country not to follow religious law. for him to feel that he needed to resign over a scandal, i do not think that is proper when he does not have to follow religious thinking about sex in this country. host: thank you for the call this morning....
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is there though a way to talk about this in a way that gives some respect to religion because i know that you're a very religious person and do you feel that god has a plan for you. >> yes. the gentleman who ran against me was told by god -- and people would say well, you know, you're theologically trained, you can probably slice him to pieces. my response was any time anybody says they were told by god to do something, i leave it alone. you know. i would say that sometimes the voice of god we hear is our own voice in disguise. and so i'm -- but at the same time i'm careful about saying well, why would god talk to you? you only have a bachelor's degree or you only -- and it was in geography. but i think we leave that alone. now i don't think that we have to manufacture a god discussion and i became really angry with many democrats saying we've got to start talking about god. my response is god will not be pimped. are we going to talk about him so we can impress some people who believe that -- say the word "god." called the name "god." i can't do that. i think in the course of who we
is there though a way to talk about this in a way that gives some respect to religion because i know that you're a very religious person and do you feel that god has a plan for you. >> yes. the gentleman who ran against me was told by god -- and people would say well, you know, you're theologically trained, you can probably slice him to pieces. my response was any time anybody says they were told by god to do something, i leave it alone. you know. i would say that sometimes the voice of...
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it is not a popular believe but my religion teaches me that hurricanes are god's punishment for pat robertson. and we had kind of a weird experience. i lived in greenwich village my whole life. i just moved uptown. i have a baby and i can't live in my shoe box anymore. my place is very, very small. the anne frank family was like "can we see something else"? we moved uptown and thought we had dodged the hurricane because we didn't lose power. i had all of the upper westside guilt. it was amazing because all of manhattan, they closed off all of the bridges and tunnels. manhattan was isolated from the rest of america which is how people of manhattan already view themselves. then i had a flood in my place downtown after the hurricane and then my storage unit was flooded with four feets of hudson river sewage water. >> oh! >> john: i would like to invite all of you climate change deniers to come and help me get the sewage smell out of my winter clothes because man there was some real destruction. it was really heartening to hear al gore call on obama to talk about a carbon tax and i think that you
it is not a popular believe but my religion teaches me that hurricanes are god's punishment for pat robertson. and we had kind of a weird experience. i lived in greenwich village my whole life. i just moved uptown. i have a baby and i can't live in my shoe box anymore. my place is very, very small. the anne frank family was like "can we see something else"? we moved uptown and thought we had dodged the hurricane because we didn't lose power. i had all of the upper westside guilt. it...
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religion's complicated, and his religious story is complicated too. not because of just catholicism and mormonism, but also because he had joined a protestant/evangelical church that his wife and her family participated in. so he's dabbled with a lot of religious practices. >> host: does he attend church today, and if so, where? >> guest: he says that when he's in washington, he attends catholic mass every single day when he can. >> host: do you know which? ing the yeah, there's a catholic church just a few steps away from his office on capitol hill. it's very easy to get to for him. but when he's here in miami, he lives in west miami, a suburb of miami proper. he attends another church called christ fellowship, and that is an evangelical/protestant-based faith which is a part of the southern baptist convention. >> host: is it a megachurch? >> guest: it's a big church, somewhere around 50,000 people attending it and several of its satellite churches in the area. >> host: gloria right here in miami. hi, gloria. gloria, you with us? we will try to come
religion's complicated, and his religious story is complicated too. not because of just catholicism and mormonism, but also because he had joined a protestant/evangelical church that his wife and her family participated in. so he's dabbled with a lot of religious practices. >> host: does he attend church today, and if so, where? >> guest: he says that when he's in washington, he attends catholic mass every single day when he can. >> host: do you know which? ing the yeah,...